Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!ucsd!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!ora!daemon From: geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu (Gordon E. Banks) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: AA, continued Message-ID: <1989Nov9.182513.10539@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu> Date: 9 Nov 89 18:25:13 GMT References: <6561@columbia.edu> <8910300440.AA23901@uunet.uu.net> <2883@cbnewsd.ATT.COM> <7152@cs.utexas.edu> Sender: ambar@ora.ora.com Reply-To: geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu (Gordon E. Banks) Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA. Lines: 18 Approved: ambar@ora.com In article <7152@cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes: >Conspicuously absent from Ms Anderson's list is: (g) applying >weaker admission/employment/entrance standards to minority >candidates. While (a) through (f) might not hurt white males, >(g) can hurt everyone who is judged by the normal standards. >While affirmative action includes all the things Ms Anderson >lists, it also includes (g), and it is (g) which has generated >all the furor over reverse discrimination. Perhaps it was omitted because while minority applicants have poor preadmission credentials, women usually don't. In fact their grades (the best correlate of college & med school performance) usually are better than those of the boys. In the academic world, it is not until you get to the phase of your career where the number of papers published matters that you would have to start making exceptions for women's qualifications.