Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!watcgl!jmberkley From: jmberkley@watnext.waterloo.edu (J. Michael Berkley) Newsgroups: tor.general Subject: Re: Dilemma with Career Plans Message-ID: Date: 13 Nov 89 14:37:24 GMT References: <2434@ists.ists.ca> <25599880.22874@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <1989Nov10.175137.1712@utzoo.uucp> <1989Nov12.163704.18325@nebulus> Sender: daemon@watcgl.waterloo.edu Reply-To: jmberkley@watnext.waterloo.edu Organization: University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Lines: 25 In-reply-to: root@nebulus's message of 12 Nov 89 16:37:04 GMT > henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: HS>equate "no degree" to "uneducated" with a further connotation of "probably HS>due to low intelligence or some other unpleasant reason". This can be a > On 12 Nov 89 16:37:04 GMT, root@nebulus (Dennis S. Breckenridge) said: DSB> B.S. look at the top of any major corporation and you find a DSB> grade 12 education and lots of good hard work! Henry is correct. I was out in industry for quite a while, but with only part of a degree. In spite of a lot of hard work, there was always a limit to how far I could be promoted because of the degree. In one job (government), I had to stay on a temporary employee basis for two years. Making my job permanent would have meant going through the competition process, and I would have lost the job. I had the same salary/benefit package as a permanent employee, but lower job security, and of course no hope of promotion. Now I'm in the middle of my 3rd year of CS at UW and loving it. Get the degree. Mike Berkley, University of Waterloo PAMI Lab jmberkley@watnext.waterloo.edu {utai,uunet}!watmath!watnext!jmberkley