Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!husc6!spdcc!merk!alliant!linus!mbunix!bwk From: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Kort) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: David Bohm speaks Summary: Spellbinding words. Keywords: Voodoo Indeed Message-ID: <80878@linus.UUCP> Date: 18 Nov 89 17:58:10 GMT References: <3033@hub.UUCP> Sender: news@linus.UUCP Reply-To: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry Kort) Organization: The Unassembled Jigsaw Puzzle, Frontier Village, NE Lines: 20 In article <3033@hub.UUCP> silber@voodoo.ucsb.edu writes: > David Bohm gave a general purpose, big audience talk at UCSB yesterday. > In the foyer of Campbell Hall were minions of the Ojai crowd who peddle > Krishnamurti literature (Bohm used to hang out with the now deceased > guru of indeterminate one-time Indian extraction). He spoke about his > concept of the 'implicate order' of the universe and all and everything. > Certainly his notion that some kind of 'wholeness' forms/patterns are > more fundamental than physical phenomena is appealing to abstract > computationalists. It seemed to me that his analogy sets up a > precedence of a pattern/context system over and above the generally > defered-to physical system of physical phenomena in space-time > (juxtaposition of pattern/context with field/spatial-extent) > To computational paradigmists, it would seem that Bohm's stuff can > be accomodated within some notion of privileged, super-fundamental > pattern-generating phenomena. Oh to be able to speak and write like that! --Barry Kort