Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!philmtl!atha!aunro!myrias!dragos!ruiu From: ruiu@dragos.uucp (dragos) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: High speed bus on the new MIPS R6000 box Keywords: R6000 MIPS bus bandwith Message-ID: <1989Nov21.032355.5779@dragos.uucp> Date: 21 Nov 89 03:23:55 GMT Reply-To: ruiu@dragos.UUCP (dragos) Organization: Orbital Mind Control Lasers, Inc. Lines: 29 After listening to an excellent talk by John Mashey at a local user group meeting, in which he gave some very interesting details of the new "enterprise" server box based on the ECL R6000, I was left wondering a few things. In the box, the chip runs at 67Mhz, and the backplane runs at 270MB/sec. The bus is 32 bits wide, and 270Mb (255.6 actually) is needed to supply one piece of data on every clock cycle. The question that comes to mind immediately: How many hoops did the designers have to jump through to achieve this ? Does anyone have any information on just how difficult it is to do a design at this speed ? (I'm told by those who have done it that even working at 40MHz is a pain because of capacitance problems.) Are bus connectors a problem at high speeds ? This 270MB/sec. figure was surprising to me - previous high speed busses I had seen were in the range of 80-128 MB/sec. Am I just behind the times ? As well, what kind of memory designs can steadily deliver hundreds of MB/sec. ? We were told that the MIPS box has 594K of cache (67Mhz, hmmm... 20ns I assume) so maybe all reads and writes are page mode and each memory board has a cache too ? I wonder how much cache misses cost at 67MHz. I wonder how often they happen in the MIPS design. -- Dragos Ruiu (ruiu@dragos.uucp) All system administrators should hand out alberta!dragos!ruiu a bottle of valium with every news-reader uunet!myrias!dr man page.