Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!me!eastick
From: eastick@me.utoronto.ca (Doug Eastick)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Elm 2.2 PL10
Keywords: All mail is lost if /usr/spool is full !
Message-ID: <89Nov23.231546est.19651@me.utoronto.ca>
Date: 24 Nov 89 04:15:37 GMT
References: <91266@pyramid.pyramid.com> <1989Nov16.145450.14312@DSI.COM> <1167@becker.UUCP>
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Mechanical Engineering
Lines: 43

bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes:

>In article <1989Nov16.145450.14312@DSI.COM> syd@DSI.COM writes:
>|[...]
>|EB26 When using an address of the form "node!user@domain", the !
>|     has higher precedence than the @ when elm resolves the ad-
>|     dress.  The @ should have higher precedence.

>	Eeek! I hope I misunderstand!
>	The proper resolution (so say I, among others) is
>	to group "(node!user)@domain" such that a route
>	thru uucp for example will go "domain!node!user".
>	If you mean "node!(user@domain)", then *shriek*
>	wrong wrong wrong
>	No doubt this is religion to some, but the problem
>	is that a lot of mailer software in use has the
>	first usage, not the second.

This problem is evident in the "g" function (group reply).  Last week,
I received a letter in which I was a Cc: recipient.  The letter was
from a user @csri.toronto.edu to several others at different
departments within the university (me, physics, etc.).  When I used
the "g", the To: line became something like:
To: csri.toronto.edu!user@csri.toronto.edu,
	csri.toronto.edu!joe@physics.toronto.edu,
	csri.toronto.edu!eastick@me.toronto.edu

Elm forced each reply thru csri.  *Our* mailer sent each letter to the
host after the '@', who in turn sent it to csri, which complained
about not knowing the user directly after the '!'.

Elm's handling of reply paths doesn't seem to work that well with
UofToronto's mailer (which is quite RFCeverything compliant).

>Water,
>-- 
>   ^^ 	 Bruce Becker	Toronto, Ont.
>w \**/	 Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu
> `/v/-e	 BitNet:   BECKER@HUMBER.BITNET
>_/  >_	 Ceci n'est pas une |    - Rene Macwrite
-- 
Doug Eastick				UUCP: uunet!utai!me!eastick
Mechanical Engineering			eastick@me.utoronto.ca