Xref: utzoo comp.misc:7420 sci.electronics:8692 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!xanth!lll-winken!scooter!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.misc,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Non-volatile Memory--EEPROM Summary: RAM with integral battery Message-ID: <1836@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 18 Nov 89 06:28:49 GMT References: <1308@rodan.acs.syr.edu> <65243@psuecl.bitnet> <1230@corpane.UUCP> <2335@cbnewsj.ATT.COM> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 25 I noticed when I looked inside my AT&T CEO 2224 modem that it used a RAM chip with internal battery for holding the setup information. The nonvolitile RAM was about double the height of a typical J type 24 pin JDEC package. It apparently has its own internal lithium cell (which appears to be non replacable). It has been a while since I had the modem apart, but I believe the part was manufactured by Dallas Semiconductor. Seems like a saw a write-up on the aforementioned parts in EDN or a similar magazine a couple of years ago. The battery RAM contains a powerdown circuit to prevent blowing away the data when Vcc goes down. I recall from using a 5313 2K * 8 EEPROM from Seeq (old technology now) that you had to be careful holding the write enable line while power was applied so as to avoid zeroing the chip. The number of writes on an EEPROM is several hundred thousand, so one needn't worry too much unless considering using it for scratchpad memory durring program execution. One wouldn't want to do that anyway, as the write time is pretty long. The older parts like the 5313 had write times on the order of a couple of mS! Bill