Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!husc6!walsh!elkies From: elkies@walsh.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Re: gamelan tunings Keywords: gamelan tuning Message-ID: <3248@husc6.harvard.edu> Date: 23 Nov 89 04:40:28 GMT References: Sender: news@husc6.harvard.edu Reply-To: elkies@walsh.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies) Organization: Harvard Math Department Lines: 19 My query about gamelan intonation elicited several interesting posts; basically it transpires that my notion of correlating gamelan tuning with gamelan overtones cannot work because the scales are too flexible, except that octaves are purposefully tuned so as to obtain beats (i.e. purposefully avoiding overtone matching). Two e-mail responses indicate, however, that such correlations have been attempted in Western responses to gamelan music: Don Maghrak (dpm@brooks.cray.com) cites a point in Messiaen's Turangalila Symphony where a deep gamelan tone is simulated by synthesizing its overtones from available orchestral instruments (cf. Ravel's Bolero); Craig Paul (paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu) points to a "Balinese" piece by Wendy Carlos on Eir "Music and the Beast" album where the instruments are tuned according to the overtone structure of struck metal or wooden bars. Thanks to all who posted our e-mailed these informative notes. --Noam D. Elkies (elkies@zariski.harvard.edu) Department of Mathematics, Harvard Univ.