Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!hubcap!pase From: pase@orville.nas.nasa.gov (Douglas M. Pase) Newsgroups: comp.parallel Subject: Re: IPSC Communications Keywords: iPSC Parallel Message-ID: <7142@hubcap.clemson.edu> Date: 20 Nov 89 21:53:46 GMT Sender: fpst@hubcap.clemson.edu Lines: 27 Approved: parallel@hubcap.clemson.edu In article <7110@hubcap.clemson.edu> coop@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu writes: >Wouldn't [Intel's two-dimensional grid communications scheme] make the >architecture less flexible and expandable [than the older n-cube topology], >besides making it necessary to restructure the instruction set? A lot of Intel's ideas are based (at least initially) on William Dally's PhD. thesis. Grossly simplified, the idea is that one can trade the wire layout complexity of an n-cube arrangement for higher bandwidth connections (more + shorter wires) in a grid/torus. Most important, he shows that such trades favor the 2d arrangements. With a simple argument it is easily shown that a grid/torus constructed in that way has lower latency and contention than an n-cube, *even for problems which prefer an n-cube*. The question I still have is whether Intel is allocating the wire space as Dally recommends, or if they're using low wire-count connections to connect the grid PEs as they do for the current n-cube machines. The performance improvements DEPEND on the higher wire-count connections. No programming changes are necessary. Routing has always been handled by the system. >P.S. is an i860-based iPSC in the future? Well, not so much the future as the present... Dr. Douglas M. Pase Computer Sciences Corporation 95 Sierra Vista Ave NAS MS 258-6 Mountain View, CA 94043 NASA Ames Research Center (415) 940-1197 Moffett Field, CA 94035 pase@orville.nas.nasa.gov (415) 694-6394