Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!binky.UUCP!dukew From: dukew@binky.UUCP (Wayne Duquaine) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm Subject: Re: LU 6.2 Questions Message-ID: <8911220224.AA10602@lilac.berkeley.edu> Date: 21 Nov 89 22:05:34 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Wayne Duquaine Organization: The Internet Lines: 27 (1) SYNCPT and BACKOUT were also implemented on the S/38 I believe, in addition to CICS. (2) Any other vendor implemented SYNCPT and BACKOUT ? - I think CULLINET SOFTWARE's UCF tp monitor may have also implemented these as part of it LU 6.2 support. It runs on S/370 mainframes. (3) SYNCPT and BACKOUT were not carried forward in SAA CPIC ? - sad but true, and I regard this as a major screwup by IBM. I heard part of the problem was due to inter-product fights while CPIC was being designed. I've heard rumors that an officially blessed version of SAA CPIC SYNCPT and BACKOUT will appear in some new version of the CPIC manual in the next 1-2 years. (4) How do 2-phase commit protocols relate to SYNCPT and BACKOUT ? - Application (transaction) programs issue SYNCPT and BACKOUT calls. These calls are then translated into the required (SNA) 2-phase commit protocol (prepare/commit/committed/forget) over the wire. For more information on how these work, you may want to read Chapter 5.3 "Presentation Services - Sync Point Services Verbs" in IBM's SC31-6808 LU 6.2 Reference: Peer Protocols manual. Hope this helps. Wayne D. === Usual disclaimers apply ===