Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!rutgers!ucsd!ucbvax!RAND.ORG!salzman%gaucho From: salzman%gaucho@RAND.ORG (Isaac Salzman) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew Subject: Messages and MH & Andrew undex X11/NeWS Message-ID: Date: 15 Nov 89 17:47:09 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 46 Reading MH trees with Messages: I've tried this out. seems to work ok. you can read an MH tree so long as you reconstruct the folder. what i've done is create a .MESSAGES directory and sym-linked the folders from my .Mail (MH) directory into .MESSAGES. some of my MH folders have "." in the name, which I just assume won't work with AMS (since it treats folders with "." as a subfolder). then I create an empty .MS_MsgDir, add the folder to .SubscriptionMap and do a reconstruct from cui. works like a charm (for the most part). now, it will either sort by time created or the time stamp of the message (the date field). that's great, but in MH messages are sorted numerically by the file name (i.e. the message number). would it be difficult to add that as an option to cui reconstruct if .amsalien exists? (i suppose i could just look at the source code to find out, eh?). also, trying to modify anything in a MH tree with messages will probably break something. i haven't tried this (don't want to trash my mail), but what happens if you "check new mail" into an MH tree? i think the thing to do there would be to run MH's "inc" and then cui reconstruct. i'll experiment with this and post a shell script or something (if anyone's interested).... Andrew under X11/NeWS (aka xnews): i've tried this and it kindof works. it's a matter of getting the fonts installed under xnews, which is a bit of a hassle. by "kindof" i mean that andrew app's will run, but the font's are wrong. it gets italic fonts where they should be normal fonts, and tiny ones where it should get larger bold fonts. not and andrew problem - i don't think. what i'm curious about is, how to explicitly set the fonts for a program, or for all atk app's in general. there's a "FontFamily" setting in preferences, but that's it. a lot of the Andrew fonts are already part of the X11R3 distribution (and R4 i assume). mostly the adobe fonts. is there need to install redudant fonts? how about using what's already there and just installing stuff that isn't already there. i think the problem with xnews is some name conflict of sorts with fonts that already exist under xnews (and MIT X11 for that matter).... anyone else experimented with Andrew under xnews? * Isaac J. Salzman ---- * The RAND Corporation - Information Sciences Dept. /o o/ / * 1700 Main St., PO Box 2138, Santa Monica, CA 90406-2138 | v | | * AT&T : +1 213-393-0411 x6421 or x7923 (ISL lab) _| |_/ * Internet : salzman@rand.org / | | * UUCP : !uunet!rand.org!salzman | | | * CompuServe: 76167,1046