Xref: utzoo comp.edu:2670 comp.software-eng:2416 Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!qucis!dalamb From: dalamb@qucis.queensu.CA (David Lamb) Newsgroups: comp.edu,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: CS education Summary: Parnas says professionals don't need CS Message-ID: <337@qusuntrc.queensu.CA> Date: 17 Nov 89 18:11:09 GMT References: <11064@cbnews.ATT.COM> <6961@hubcap.clemson.edu> <9734@june.cs.washington.edu> <4863@ae.sei.cmu.edu> <9760@june.cs.washington.edu> Reply-To: dalamb@qucis.queensu.CA (David Lamb) Organization: Queen's University, Kingston Ontario Lines: 24 David Parnas, a fairly well-known name in Software Engineering, wrote a report last winter about "Education for Computing Professionals", which outlines his opinions about what undergraduate education practitioners should have. It includes very little of conventional computer science. I don't have my copy handy and am too lazy to find it right now, but I can recall a strong emphasis on basic hard science (physics and chemistry); mathematics (including a couple of terms of calculus, which a lot of CS programs de-emphasize); things from engineering programs typically ignored in CS programs like control theory and signal processing. He also doesn't call for a lot of currently hot "Software Engineering" topics, either. I think we have some copies left; if you want one, send me a postal address and I'll try to arrange to send you one. Parnas may be intending to publish it more widely; I'm not sure, and he's out of town right now. David Alex Lamb Department of Computing and Information Science Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, Canada K7L 3N6 (613) 545-6067 ARPA Internet: David.Lamb@cs.cmu.edu dalamb@qucis.queensu.ca uucp: ...!utzoo!utcsri!qucis!dalamb