Xref: utzoo comp.edu:2671 comp.software-eng:2418 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!rutgers!ucsd!usc!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!shadooby!egrunix!nucleus!dar From: dar@nucleus.UUCP (Dario Alcocer) Newsgroups: comp.edu,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: CS education Summary: I agree Message-ID: <5480@nucleus.UUCP> Date: 16 Nov 89 19:43:30 GMT References: <5470@nucleus.UUCP> <7012@hubcap.clemson.edu> Organization: The Nucleus Public Access Unix, Clarkston, MI Lines: 38 In article <7012@hubcap.clemson.edu>, billwolf%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu (William Thomas Wolfe, 2847 ) writes: > From dar@nucleus.UUCP (Dario Alcocer): > > I think that the technical school and high schools are the ones in the > > position to train people for the job market. > > ... The only reasonable solution is to provide at least two tracks > within the university system: a research track and a practitioner's > track. If this were combined with several other mechanisms by which > meaningful dialogue would be facilitated between the two communities, > then we would be well on our way to a much-improved system. > > > Bill Wolfe, wtwolfe@hubcap.clemson.edu > Your points are well taken. I agree with your observation that practioners and researchers do not communicate enough with each other, many new developments in computer science are probably not taken advantage of quickly because practioners many times don't share the same experiences and terminology that the researchers do, and maybe the researchers could benefit from seeing their hypotheses proven or disproven when applied to real-world applications. Relating to this, what do you think of the cooperative education system in place at the University of Waterloo? I think that a good start would be for students to get 2 or 3 years of experience, and then have 1 or 2 years of CS or CE training to help them see how theory and engineering techniques can be used to solve the same problems seen in their first 2 years more effectively. Practical experience becomes more valuable, I feel, when you have theoretical framework to able to generalize on your experience and the experience of others. In fact, I see theoretical knowledge as partly being the generalized experience of the whole. Again, thank you for sharing your ideas, and I appreciate you correcting me on some mistaken opinions I've had. Dario Alcocer dar@nucleus.mi.org