Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!uvaarpa!mcnc!ncsuvx!shumv1!mikes From: mikes@shumv1.uucp (Michael Steele) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Support Apple II's Message-ID: <4575@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> Date: 18 Nov 89 09:51:14 GMT References: <0.apple.info-apple@pro-fishunt> <113300145@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> <2186@cbnewse.ATT.COM> <5595@umd5.umd.edu> <4514@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> <36423@apple.Apple.COM> <16865@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> Sender: news@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu Reply-To: mikes@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Michael Steele) Organization: NCSU Computing Center Lines: 43 In article <16865@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> anarch@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (The Anarch) writes: >In article <36423@apple.Apple.COM> mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) writes: >>In article <4514@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Rick Fincher) writes: >>> >>>A similar IIgs would be under $2,500 retail, if Apple had educational prices >>>for the IIgs it would be less than $1,500. >>> >>Ahem...Apple *does* have educational prices for all its products. Most people >>just don't happen to be schools. > >Ahem..my school claims that they cannot get Apple II stuff, only Macs. I'm not >sure if they mean for the school or for students, but either way it seems a bit >screwed to me. ************* Flame thrower on! (look out marketing types!)********** Ohh yes, I went through this argument with the Marketing fiends at the Boston Applefest. I go to NC STATE University and they sell LOTS of Macs here, but know nothing of the GS's! Of course Apple gives them the option of selling the GS's but certainly doesn't suggest doing so. ALL of the Apple marketing in this area is geared toward the Mac. It disgusts me to see the Mac being pushed so fervently toward students who can't afford them...even at the cut rate prices offered. A GS would give a student a sufficient amount of power at an affordable price. OF Course Apple can't have college students running around with GS's though! "They just aren't powerful enough to handle a college demands!" The NCSU music department bought 3 GS's to use in sound training but abanded them when the local Apple dealer (really a Mac dealer) told them the GS's were "useless, not powerful enough" and suggested they buy Macs!!!!!!! So the music department has to wait a couple of years before they can get enough money to purchase these more "powerful" Macs! I commend people like Matt and other AIIDTS folks on the net who further the GS "cause". The people at fault are the marketing slime who evidently run Apple Corporate now! My only cause for hope is that the new Developers Association will be able to convince marketing that the GS really is a viable solution for small businesses and students as well as the K-12 market. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Steele mikes@shumv1.ncsu.edu mikes@ccvr1.ncsu.edu ALINK: MikeSteele mikes@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu BITNET: netoprms@ncsuvm.bitnet