Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!dino!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!uxf.cso.uiuc.edu!rjk752 From: rjk752@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: MWC errors (was Re: GEM help ne Message-ID: <46300076@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 18 Nov 89 13:23:02 GMT References: <14@<46db2d0a> Lines: 38 Nf-ID: #R:<46db2d0a:14:uxf.cso.uiuc.edu:46300076:000:2035 Nf-From: uxf.cso.uiuc.edu!rjk752 Nov 17 13:28:00 1989 I tried to mail you this, but it gave me the line below 554 covertr@force.uucp... Service unavailable: Inappropriate ioctl for device Since I have mailed to others, I assume I did "the right stuff" at my end. So here goes: ----- Unsent message follows ----- I think most of the people on the net are aware that Atari is handling the marketing/support situation very poorly in the U.S. probably because of their European concentration. Atari is also aware by now of how we feel, if they even read or care about this notesfile anymore with its childish sounding bickering. I accept that you have Atari's interests at heart, and am glad you feel it is worth your time to write the long notes (seriously). However, bringing up MWC'S loss of performance to show that the Atari's market is going down is redundant. We already know, and they know it too. I get to use this net for free, but if I didn't I would probably get upset about downloading all of the repetitive (Atari-bashing) messages at long- distance costs. Some people may not have the extra money to spend. I don't have that much extra time to spend, but it is only slightly irritating to skip them at a couple seconds loss. I purchased Mark William's C also, and would be especially interested in an ANSI compiler which I could use at work. But a brief announcement that MWC ANSI "C" isn't out would probably have been sufficient. This is my opinion, but I think straight facts will recieve warmer attention than (few facts)+(gobs of repeat opinions). That is my official opinion on opinions :) You did make some good points, but please let it rest until there are some hard facts (and then moderate the volume of opinions) BTW, the lines on your messages are too long for most of our screens. They wrap around and leave a lot of blank space on the second line. Please shorten the width of your window to around 75 or (max) 80 characters, or increase them to just below 160 for those of us with standard sized windows. Thanks, Bob Krieter