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From: rjk752@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu
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Subject: Re: atari ABC  yea or nay  ????
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Date: 20 Nov 89 10:38:38 GMT
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/* Written by suhonen@tukki.jyu.fi in uxf.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.atari.st */

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>The MC68000 is FAR from RISC!!!!   It is absolutely a CISC processor!
	Not true.  See below.

<	I am a month from graduation as a computer engineer, and....
>if only I where you professor, I'll would kick you out of the University!!
>Almoust draduated computer engineer, and does not know NOTHING about
>processors... Where is the word goning to?????
	Isn't there some sort of error in logic there ?  Because I haven't
programmed the 68000 and one of my statements about it was technically
incorrect, I know NOTHING about processors.  I know quite a bit about
processors (I won't bore everyone by putting it in).  The University of
Illinois is in fact one of the best Colleges in the United states in the
field of Computer Engineering, and I will graduate in December. However,
they tend to concentrate on theory.  I have had little experience with the
hardware currently on the market.
	I don't see any smiles in your text.  If you want to get personal
with colorful insults, then please use mail.  Your message is in very poor
taste.  There is enough bashing going on here, we don't need to start flame
wars as well, do we ?
	I heard about the 68000 architecture from a friend at the University
here (I haven't actually programmed it myself).  Here is what he said:
(Note that I now admit the 68000 is considered CISC)

"Actually, the 68000 is considered CISC, because of the fact that YOU, the USER
cannot write programs in its "basic" set.  I am *quite* sure that at the very
*heart* of the 68000 is a RISC ALU which executes a VERY small program (which
is stored in the on-chip memory) which reads the instructions from memory and
decodes them.  So overall, the 68000 is in fact CISC, but it is run by a RISC
heart.

And yes, I am quite sure of this.  I got this info from a (very informative)
article on CPU architecture in Byte magazine (a special issue on architecture
sometime in the last 14 months or so) -- they were doing a specific comparison
of the basic operation differences between the 80x86 and the 680x0 families."

	Hopefully that will clear up any confusion that you or I created.