Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!samsung!uunet!mcsun!unido!tub!tmpmbx!netmbx!hase From: hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Gadgets by Small - Possible new '030 add-on board! Message-ID: <3819@netmbx.UUCP> Date: 22 Nov 89 09:41:31 GMT References: <23970@cup.portal.com> <2278@hudson.acc.virginia.edu> <46dba878.14a1f@force.UUCP> <1989Nov16.180311.23182@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> Reply-To: hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) Organization: netmbx Public Access Unix, Berlin, West Germany Lines: 46 In article <2307@hudson.acc.virginia.edu> gl8f@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes: >In article <3795@netmbx.UUCP> hase@netmbx.UUCP (Hartmut Semken) writes: >>I exspect the Gadgets board to help a lot with Spectre and do almost >>nothing for TOS. >Hm. I thought the FaST Tech board was a 16mhz 68000 with a >write-through 32k cache. >The way that it wins over the PAK68 is that Jim Allen has partially >decoupled the processor speed from the video speed. True. The PAK68 was designed to be swapped against any 68000 proc. It's not ST specific and does not fit in the ST enviroment nicely. A ST specific board can do pretty much more. The main problem with the 020 cache is self modifying code. The external, write trough cache of the 16 MHz 68000 boards works well, the 020 and 030 internal chaches won't. As Alan said, some programs will loose on the TT; the reason is the cache. >> The ST is a closed machine; a compatible, faster >>redesign is pretty exspensive. >But the TT *is* a compatible redesign with 32-bit everything, right? >It will be interesting to compare the TT to other similar '030 boxes, >when/if it arrives. For me, the "if" is true. I'll believe in this machine, if I could buy one at my dealer's. Mr Hartman said, it would ship Sep to Okt 1989 (march, CeBIT). This statement was corrected at the Atari fair in Duesseldorf to Nov 89. Now it's "early 1990". Too bad. Now, Nov, is the time, everybody discovers, he has something left in the budget. He thinks about what to spend it on. He will not spend it on a non-existing machine... hase -- Hartmut Semken, Lupsteiner Weg 67, 1000 Berlin 37 hase@netmbx.UUCP Dennis had stepped up into the top seat whet its founder had died of a lethal overdose of brick wall, taken while under the influence of a Ferrari and a bottle of tequila. (Douglas Adams; the long dark teatime...)