Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!cernvax!chx400!ugun2b!ugobs!bartho From: bartho@obs.unige.ch (PAUL BARTHOLDI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Subject: Re: Handheld for school use..? Message-ID: <446@obs.unige.ch> Date: 23 Nov 89 09:31:51 GMT References: <3154@harrier.ukc.ac.uk> Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland Lines: 36 In article <3154@harrier.ukc.ac.uk>, dl1@ukc.ac.uk (D.Langford) writes: > My daughter is 12. She's been using a - very basic - solar calculator ... > > Her teacher has advised a pretty limited Casio Scientific, suggesting ... Having three mathematicaly oriented children about the age of your daughter, and a wiffe teaching math to similar age students, although living under a different 'climate', here would be my experience : 1. all calculators they had desapeared for some reason (broken, stolen, lost or ...) before 2 years. things seams to improve when they enter high school (15 here). So make a choice for NOW, and expect to buy an other one, better and bigger, in some near future (1-3 years) 2. considering both Texas, Casio and HP of similar power, we have found the Casio the more robust, the Texas the most breakable ('large' statistics with my wife students for both Casio and Texas, very small with HP). 3. children (and parents) are at first afraid of RPN, but usualy get used to it very rapidely, specialy of they are 12, but you may have to help her because most of the teacher and students will probably have infix calculators. From experience, when they have understood the way to use them, they make less errors with RPN, specialy for complex operations. 4. if you want to make a nice gift to your daughter, keeping open the choice for a more professional calculator when she will be in a more mature environment, then i would choose either an HP22 or an HP32. I find them very easy to use, powerful but simple, with a nice and didactic 'solve' function that helps a lot looking at equations. The main difference is that the HP22 is an infix calculator, while the 32 is an RPN (postfix) one. The 22 has a set of preprogrammed functions that are, in my opinion, just gadget. The 32 has also a 'integrate' function that your daughter will probably not use for the next two years. Both have good statistic functions, that mathematicaly oriented children love to play with ... Both are some how programmable (much better with the 32, but the 22 is definitely easier to write simple equations) I hope this may help you and your daughter. Good luck ! Paul Paul bartholdi - Observatory of Geneva - CH-1290 Sauverny - Switzerland.