Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!apple!sun-barr!decwrl!eda.com!jim From: jim@eda.com (Jim Budler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Affordable Macs? Message-ID: <1989Nov17.082604.15463@eda.com> Date: 17 Nov 89 08:26:04 GMT References: <254@spt.entity.com> <780082@hpvcfs1.HP.COM> Organization: EDA Systems,Inc. Santa Clara, CA Lines: 78 stevem@hpvcfs1.HP.COM (Steve Miller) writes: } Now, I'm in trouble: Mac 512KE upgraded to 1 Meg and a SCSI port. I can't } upgrad to more RAM without "great pain". I've been looking at something called MacRescue, or RescueMac (my reference is elsewhere). $317, it clips on the motherboard, no mods, and incorporates SCSI port and 6 SIMM slots. With it and 6 256k SIMMs you have a 2Meg 512ke. With combinations of 1 Meg SIMMs and 256k SIMMs you can have up to 4 Meg. Only certain combinations work (1, 2, 2.5, and 4). As far as I can figure this must be 2@256k=1Meg, 6@256k=2Meg, 2@1M=2.5Meg, 4@1M|2@1M+4@256k=4Meg. The last sentence is pure speculation, however they do *not* or the Mac does not support 1.5Meg or 3Meg. It's advertised in the back of MacWorld, and I called them. They are back ordered (as of last Thursday) about two weeks. My choices, as I see them: Dove board ~$180 = 1 Meg, dead end Dove board ~$480 = 2 Meg, dead end MacRescue $317 + 2 256k SIMMS @~$25 ea.= ~$370, no dead end Later: 2 1M SIMMs @ ~$80 ea. = ~$550 total = 2.5Meg, not dead yet or: 4 256k SIMMs @~$25 ea. = ~$470 total = 2Meg, not dead yet Later still: More SIMMS, more $$ = 4Meg. It looks to me like for an extra $190 at the beginning, I will have the opportunity to spend an extra $70, or an -$10 in the middle to retain the opportunity to spend another $$ to get somewhere I can't get with Dove. Given that I don't know either the final allowed mix of chips on the MacRescue, or the actual cost of 256k SIMMs, the ability to go to 4Meg appears to me to outweigh the initial cost delta. Plus a trip to a computer swap might get me 6 256k SIMMs for $60. There are thousands of people out there with 2 256k SIMMs in their desk drawers after upgrading Pluses and SE's to 2.5 Meg. Plus their add says "limited time offer" they will take other upgrade boards as trade in. I doubt they mean my scsi daughter board, but I'll try. } "Wow, 1 Meg, I'll never run out of RAM now!" Steven Miller - 1987 Hey, I thought that when I went from a 64k Apple ][ to a 128k Mac. I knew better in 10 minutes, but was still happy for several months. Thought the Fat Mac (512k for you late comers) was much too late. Upgraded!to it as soon as it was available. Upgraded to the ke 'cause of the 800k drive, later appreciated it even more 'cause of the SCSI. Stalled there. Now: I can't run half the new applications (half? 80%), can't run Hypercard, Multifinder, even print spoolers. Upgrade to a plus? Why? Can't run System 7, costs as much as either of the alternatives I listed above. } Steven Miller } Vancouver Division } Hewlett Packard Thank you HP for the DeskWriter. I don't have one yet, but it looks like (in todays snapshot of the TechWorld) what I'll be replacing my aging Imagewriter I with. jim (late at night) -- Jim Budler jim@eda.com ...!{decwrl,uunet}!eda!jim compuserve: 72415,1200 applelink: D4619 voice: +1 408 986-9585 fax: +1 408 748-1032