Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!usc!apple!agate!brahms.berkeley.edu!silverio From: silverio@brahms.berkeley.edu (C J Silverio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Re: Torx screwdriver Message-ID: <1989Nov19.185438.9202@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 19 Nov 89 18:54:38 GMT References: <20618@unix.cis.pitt.edu> <430044@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator;;;;ZU44) Reply-To: silverio@brahms.berkeley.edu.UUCP (C J Silverio) Organization: Bath Department, UC Merkeley Lines: 43 Parag Patel writes: >Torx drivers should also be available at Sears. If they aren't at the >store, they should definitely be in the tools catalog. They have a >pretty nice driver that holds several different tips in the handle. I >seem to remember that extra tips are also available. Yeah, they sell Torx bits, but not a 15" bitdriver. (These bits are about 1" long, black anodized, and have a 1/4" hex end opposite a screwdriver or Torx end.) My solution was to go to the local Humongous Tool Warehouse and poke around til I found an all-purpose bitdriver that happened to include Torx bits as well as Phillips and Slotted sizes. I needed a long screwdriver anyway. It was cheap, it will do anything, and I can go back and buy more bits if I want. Sears, fr'example, sells a 36 bit set with a dinky driver handle for a fair piece o change. Incidentally, a 12" driver will work (sort of), a #15 Torx will also work (sortof, be careful) and you don't NEED those two screws in the handle for anything other than warrantee verification. They don't seem to add any structural strength. If you want a "spreader," ask for an electric arc welding "ground clamp." This is what most of those kits give you: a silver thing that looks like one of those wrist muscle excercizers (and will double as that, as well) about 6" long with flat lip-like pincers that close as you release pressure. Cheap cheap. I personally just set the Mac facedown on the floor, put my sneakers on either side, and give a yank. Of course, if I were getting paid for this, I would buy a spreader. The very first way we opened a Mac was to grind down the handle of one of the Appletalk Torx drivers. BTW, Do NOT EVER overtighten any torx screws on the Mac. This WILL cause damage. Just make sure the case is well closed first (clomp it a couple) and then just bring the screws snug. Also BTW, scredrivers are measured including the handle, which is cannonically 6 inches long. Have fun, and watch out for high voltage.