Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxe.cso.uiuc.edu!mcdonald From: mcdonald@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Will the Next sell? Message-ID: <245300021@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 24 Nov 89 01:38:34 GMT References: <4283@helios.ee.lbl.gov> Lines: 38 Nf-ID: #R:helios.ee.lbl.gov:4283:uxe.cso.uiuc.edu:245300021:000:1816 Nf-From: uxe.cso.uiuc.edu!mcdonald Nov 23 11:11:00 1989 >> >>Second, why Joe average will never buy one: >> It's too damn expensive, and a $1000 AT clone run's all the >>software he needs. >Today. Not tomorrow. In the early 80's, people were saying "Why >by an IBM PC, when my C/PM system runs all the software I need?" This is not a fair comparison. A CPM system ran on the Z-80 (I believe). It never migrated to more powerful chips (well, it did, but people seemed to buy MS-DOS instead - the CPM86 wouldn't run CPM binaries). MS-DOS has migrated to 386 and 486 CPU's. A cheap 386 clone has MORE power than a NeXt. Substantially more, for less money. NeXt has to make their mark on spiffiness, by out MACing Apple with a real multitasking OS. And, please don't use the argument "I can use a diskless workstation". Nobody - nobody - is going to make lots of sales of diskless workstations. In ten years nobody - nobody - is going to make sales of diskless electric mixers (and that is a serious prediction!). "Lots of sales" implies selling single machines for stand-alone use. I looked at the NeXt and was highly impressed, except for the lack of color and the woeful lack of horsepower. I was impressed by the MAC too, when it first came out, and the Lisa before that. But I never have bought one. They are too frustrating. Everything is canned. Too menu-driven. Too many things you "can't do". Just yesterday I was looking at scanner software on one. The scanner was attached, the program loaded, but the "scan" item on the menu was grayed. NEither I nor the gurus had any idea why. The manual was useless. Hopefully vendors of add-ons for the NeXt will provide enough data on their products that an owner can write ordinary Unix programs to access them. HAving a real OS and being able to write ordinary command line programs is a big help. Doug MCDonald