Xref: utzoo news.admin:7725 news.groups:14898 comp.mail.uucp:3785 comp.os.vms:19853 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!think!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!tale From: tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.groups,comp.mail.uucp,comp.os.vms Subject: Re: New newsgroup hierarchy Message-ID: <1989Nov22.045538.16379@rpi.edu> Date: 22 Nov 89 04:55:38 GMT References: <1618.25614348@mccall.uucp> <1989Nov16.172110.21492@utzoo.uucp> <7030@ficc.uu.net> <1989Nov20.162705.6355@utzoo.uucp> Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Lines: 33 In article <7030@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: Peter> I have a suggestion: let's make this a test-case for my Peter> delegation idea. Assign authority for comp.os.vms.* to the Peter> vmsnet folks. In <1989Nov20.162705.6355@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: Henry> Sounds good to me. Maybe if we get the administrative trivia Henry> out of the way, the real motives of the "vmsnet.*" group will Henry> emerge. (Surely you don't expect that they will actually go Henry> along with such a reasonable idea...) It sounds good to me too, but those admins who think the USENET which is best is one that they never have to touch will surely complain about having to add !comp.os.vms.all to outgoing feeds who didn't want the data at all. I really think it is worth the trouble though. Why must admins who do their jobs give way continually to those who choose to ignore actually administering their system? We get other "major" alternate hierarchies including u3b, unix-pc, and now vmsnet. Why can't they be merged into the regular USENET namespace? [Answer: because of the admins who just don't understand how it all works. "Uh, why did johann@bigvax.site.edu send a newgroup for comp.os.vms.networks without a vote??" No, I don't think it is a good answer. It is one I expect to hear though.] [Why is this in comp.mail.uucp? Heaven help he who breaks the message chain, though. (cf news.software.b)] Dave -- (setq mail '("tale@pawl.rpi.edu" "tale@ai.mit.edu" "tale@rpitsmts.bitnet"))