Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!tale From: tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: warning: scumbags using usenet for pyramid schemes Message-ID: <256C7976.372@rpi.edu> Date: 23 Nov 89 23:12:53 GMT References: <15389@vlsisj.VLSI.COM> <667@ursa-major.SPDCC.COM> <1989Nov19.004703.16570@rpi.edu> <1229@svx.SV.DG.COM> Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Lines: 58 In <1229@svx.SV.DG.COM> gary@dgcad.SV.DG.COM (Gary Bridgewater) writes: Gary> Let me see if I understand you. A burglar breaks into your Gary> house, rifles your valubles and in a burst of chutzpah sits down Gary> at your table and makes himself a snack. You return and find Gary> him so engaged. Your reaction will be to wax reflective on Gary> Voltaire's _Essay_on_Tolerence_ because, after all, he'd already Gary> done all the illegal stuff before you got there? What's your Gary> address? Well, you don't understand me. You seem to have come up with this notion that all laws are the same; at least, for the purposes of this analogy. Someone sent me a very informative letter regarding the legality of all this. I mailed him a message back a few days ago asking to cite him but I haven't received anything back, but I just want to put this whole thing behind now. In spite of his very informative letter, I'm not _sure_. What the other person, who started this scheme, said makes sense too. I don't know the law and if I did I probably wouldn't agree with it anyway. My own paranoia, however, is cause enough for me to just get rid of the blasted thing. I don't believe it is a matter of protection via the First Amendment, though. In a way, I am really surprised about how hostile this pyramid letter issue has made some people. Well, not really "surprised", but something still seems psychologically fascinating about it. In <1989Nov20.163715.5628@aqdata.uucp> sullivan@aqdata.uucp (Michael Sullivan): Michael> This is a pyramid scheme involving money and it is most Michael> certainly illegal. Okay, I have some questions still though. I won't argue about them, I'd just like to have some answers. Why is it illegal? (For the hundredth time, I am _not_ supporting them. I don't like them either. There are a lot of things that I don't like that I don't think should be illegal for people to do.) Who ends up getting punished, and how? The person who started it, the people who knowingly propogated it, and/or anyone that has such a letter in their possesion? In <882@jantor.UUCP> barry@jantor.UUCP (Barry Dunlap KA5KTH) writes: Barry> In paul's article he is talking about protecting the rights of Barry> the first admenment. For paul i ask, [...] Actually, Paul's mention of the First Amendment was in reply to the first article I sent, which he interpreted as my saying that this was a free speech issue. He was rebutting a misunderstanding about my article, not trying to bring the pyramid letter under the protection of the Bill of Rights. Speaking of that United States of American (well, people bitch about just saying "American". What am I supposed to say?) document, this pyramid letter and the discussion here in news.groups has not been limited to usa. What do other nations have to say about it? Dave -- (setq mail '("tale@pawl.rpi.edu" "tale@ai.mit.edu" "tale@rpitsmts.bitnet"))