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From: don@gp.govt.nz (Don Stokes, GPO)
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.groups,comp.mail.uucp,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: New newsgroup hierarchy
Message-ID: <744@gp.govt.nz>
Date: 27 Nov 89 08:34:33 GMT
References: <1618.25614348@mccall.uucp> <1989Nov16.172110.21492@utzoo.uucp> <91457@pyramid.pyramid.com>
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In article <91457@pyramid.pyramid.com>, csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes:
> In article <1989Nov16.172110.21492@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes:
>>In article <1618.25614348@mccall.uucp> tp@mccall.uucp writes:
>>>...newsgroups vmsnet.*.... This hierarchy is for topics of interest to
>>>VAX/VMS sites.
>>
>>We will unhesitatingly carry them if and when they become subgroups of
>>comp.os.vms.  We will be very reluctant to carry them if you insist on
>>having your own top-level name; there are too many top-level names already,
>>and I utterly fail to see why you need one of your own.
> 
> No! This is a different distribution -- therefore it definitely should have
> its own top-level name. The whole inet thing -- running a completely separate
> distribution within the traditional namespace -- has adaquately demonstrated
> that this is the wrong way to go. It's easy to handwave and blame it on poor
> software, or poor adminsitration; but the fact remains that running different
> distributions within the same namespace just doesn't work very well. Think of
> it as administrative friendliness.
> 
> What next? Fold biz.all and clari.all into the comp, sci, etc. hierarchy?
> 
> vmsnet.* is the right way to go.
> 
> <csg>

'ang on.  There is one *major* problem with new top level names - simply,
that many sites (eg all? New Zealand ones) only get a subset of all
available newsgroups.  If you create a new top level name,  WE WILL NOT
GET IT!!!!  It's fine to just blame poor software etc, as you say - but 
some of us live in the *real* *word* (ie outside the USA 8-) - issues 
preventing full news coverage include economics - virtually zilch of the 
problem is technical.  

Don Stokes  ZL2TNM    /  /                               vuwcomp!windy!gpwd!don
Systems Programmer   /GP/ Government Printing Office     PSI%0530147000028::DON
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