Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!hplabs!well!bluefire From: bluefire@well.UUCP (Bob Jacobson) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS Message-ID: <14667@well.UUCP> Date: 21 Nov 89 07:53:23 GMT References: <14547-repost@well.UUCP> <1989Nov16.161429.12549@talos.uucp> <3965@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> <21166@ut-emx.UUCP> <1989Nov19.230638.7288@cs.rochester.edu> Reply-To: bluefire@well.UUCP (Bob Jacobson) Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 29 Brian Yamauchi suggests making this a comp.cyberspace, soc.cyberspace, or similar conference, without a moderator. We (Rheingold and I) see virtual worlds as including phenomenal constructions that may include cyberspaces, but may also include other types of visual, aural, and tactile stimuli alone or in combination. These may or may not approach the idealization of the cyberspace, as most people conceive of that term's meaning -- an all-encompassing environmental simulation. Some virtual worlds may be much more limited in their scope and more dependent on certain types of psychophysiological illusions than computers put on overdrive. I'm drawn to the idea of soc.cyberspace (actually, soc.virtual-worlds), but most of the research being done currently is not social in nature but techno- logical, psychological, and physiological. For now, it is a science; hopefully,it can someday accommodate cultural critics and philosophers in greater numbers. As for a moderator, anyone who has observed alt.cyberpunk, the precursor of this proposed newsgroup, in action knows why a moderator is a good idea. No amount of speed in turnover is worth the savaging of thought that can occur in a non-moderated newsgroup, IMHO. -- BOB JACOBSON, Associate Director, Human Interface Technology Laboratory University of Washington (FU-20), Seattle, WA 98195 USA (206) 543-5075 (voice), 543-5380 (fax) * bluefire@well.uucp >> "We can do virtually anything." <<