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From: williamt@athena1.Sun.COM (William A. Turnbow)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: Soc.feminism
Message-ID: <128202@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>
Date: 21 Nov 89 17:50:13 GMT
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Reply-To: williamt@sun.UUCP (William A. Turnbow)
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In article <48571@bbn.COM> rshapiro@BBN.COM (Richard Shapiro) writes:
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>This is utter fantasy, and more than a little paranoid. Perhaps Mr
>Turnbow believes that feminism equals man-bashing; perhaps he believes
>this makes him "middle of the road";
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I know what was there when the group was first created.  There was
alot of hostility toward men, and extra filters were applied toward
postings by any man.  The group was created because out of an emotional
outburst against men posting in soc.women -- and how some women would
like a safe forum to discuss woman things among themselves.  Now the flavor
of the group may have changed since then, but that was definitely the
impression I got at the time.  As for my opinions on feminism, I notice
that people in soc.feminism have mentioned Drawing Down in the Moon.
In chapter 12, p339, she quotes another man who was organizing men
together for spiritual purposes:

	"...'the continual lumping together of all men as the enemy' which he
had previously only identified as a 'separatist movement' is very
prevalent throught the feminist movement.'

	It goes on to tell about the effects on the men exposed to such, but
that isn't appropriate here [of course I wonder about the appropriateness
of the topic at all, but -- "Oh well..."].

-wat-

   --- An it harm none, do what you will.