Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!xanth!mcnc!thorin!unc!oliver From: oliver@unc.cs.unc.edu (Bill Oliver) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Soc.feminism Message-ID: <10657@thorin.cs.unc.edu> Date: 21 Nov 89 17:15:41 GMT References: <21323@usc.edu> Sender: news@thorin.cs.unc.edu Reply-To: oliver@unc.cs.unc.edu (Bill Oliver) Organization: University Of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Lines: 30 In article <21323@usc.edu> gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) writes: [He doesn't like it that something he posted was rejected] You really have no cause for complaint. The bottom line is that a moderated news group is a censored group, and the moderators censor as to their whim. That whim may or may not be accurately described in the group's charter -- it doesn't matter as long as the moderator believes that he or she is doing the right thing. When you submit to a moderated group, you are applying for permission to post, and have no rights in the matter. If you don't like their decisions, then don't post to the group. Moderated groups are and "us" vs "them" phenomenon. It's a conversation between "us", without having to listen to "them." "Them" is defined as that class of people who don't post like we want them to post. This is not a condemnation of moderated groups -- I read a number of them. But you must remember that open discussion is not possible, and is not desired by the moderators or by most of the readers. Basically, it doesn't matter what justification is given for rejecting an article; if you don't meet the moderator's wishes in a post, you don't meet the moderator's wishes. It's as simple as that. The only reason to bother with a justification is if you are planning to modify your thoughts to bring them into accord with the moderator's desires. Bill Oliver