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From: tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,news.groups
Subject: Re: talk.religion.pagan, etc -- call for non-binding votes
Message-ID: <9075@hoptoad.uucp>
Date: 24 Nov 89 20:58:01 GMT
References: <1989Nov23.203152.20791@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>
Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney)
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In article <1989Nov23.203152.20791@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> ptgarvin@uokmax.UUCP
(Patrick T. Garvin) writes:
>Might be a good idea to do the single transferable vote method, since
>the poll for all the different names didn't come up with a single
>clear winner (it came up with a majority rather than a 2/3rds margin or
>anything like that).

No, it didn't come up with a majority.  It came up with a plurality,
which is even weaker.  2/3 of the votes cast were *not* for
talk.religion.pagan.  And the second place winner, our of six
candidates, was for no change at all.

Look, let's settle this thing.  The results of the existing poll were
too indecisive to serve as a basis for action, and as has been pointed
out, some people want a new group rather than a renaming.  I don't
think there's enough interest on tis net in what is now called "new age"
metaphysics to sustain a group consisting solely of that, and I don't
think it's fair to other occultists for pagans and only pagans to get
their own group.  So I support a rename with a more inclusive name.
Others disagree.  I am now calling for votes on these issues.  Voting
will go on until I receive no votes for a week, or until Yule, whichever
comes first.  Names of voters will be posted.  Please use the following
form, putting your response after the "Answer: " lines.

1.  Should talk.religion.newage be:
	a) Left as it is?
	b) Renamed to something more inclusive, like talk.religion.magic?
	c) Left as it is, but supplemented with a Neo-Pagan group?
	d) Left as it is, but supplemented with a general "occult" group?
Answer: 

2.  If you chose anything but (a) for question 1, what would you prefer as
    the name of the new or renamed group?
	a) talk.religion.magic
	b) talk.religion.pagan
	c) talk.religion.metaphysics
	d) talk.religion.wicca
	e) talk.religion.occult
	f) talk.religion.esoteric
	g) talk.religion.earth
	h) other (specify:) 
Answer: 

3.  Should the new or existing group (whether a renamed or un-renamed
    talk.religion.newage or a newly created supplement group) be:
	a)  Moderated?
	b)  Unmoderated?
Answer: 

4.  If you chose moderation (a) in question 3, do you have anyone you would
    like to nominate as the moderator?  If so, please state the name.
Answer: 

Send votes to hoptoad!tim.  hoptoad calls (among others) the following
sites, any of which may be prefixed to its name (e.g., sun!hoptoad!tim).
On a UNIX system, you can use "uuname" to find which of these sites
your own system calls.

amdahl
amdcad
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gatech
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nsc
pacbell
portal
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sun
telebit
unisoft
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uunet
well

Internet users may send votes to "tim@toad.com" or "hoptoad!tim@sun.com".

Please do vote; if we get another low turnout, then we should assume that
"no change" is the winner.
-- 
Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com

"Something was badly amiss with the spiritual life of the planet, thought
 Gibreel Farishta.  Too many demons inside people claiming to believe in
 God." -- Salman Rushdie, THE SATANIC VERSES