Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!nuchat!sugar!ficc!peter From: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Proposed Guidelines Change (was Re: A Few Observations) Keywords: backbone, oligarchy Message-ID: <7099@ficc.uu.net> Date: 24 Nov 89 20:33:15 GMT References: <7046@ficc.uu.net> <1602@uvaarpa.virginia.edu> Reply-To: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) Organization: Xenix Support, FICC Lines: 39 In article <1602@uvaarpa.virginia.edu> hb@Virginia.EDU (Hank Bovis) writes: > In article <7046@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: > >So most people will continue to not vote. > Oh, come on, haven't you been complaining about how uniformed people > were pulled into the aquaria vote just a result of politicking? The aquaria vote is a special case. And still, less than 1/10th of 1 percent of the net voted. > Larger groups where there is no _controversy_, I agree. [...] > Well, it's all relative, I suppose. A little controversy may be ok, > but a lot may not. In this message, you're confusing controversy about the group with controversy about the name. By a controversial vote I mean something like talk.religion.islam, where there is opposition to the charter. Opposition to the name is easy to avoid. Just don't choose a controversial name. To quote someone or other... it's not nuclear physics or anything. If people are telling you you made a mistake in putting your hot-air-ballooning group into "comp", then you should stop and ask yourself if you made a mistake. If you're offering a proposal in good will, you will not get more than 30 or so NO votes, no matter how controversial the subject. It's when you've got an ulterior motive that people get hot under the collar. > My idea would be to eliminate NO votes entirely, and increase the number > of YES votes rquired to insure reasonable interest in the group. Only if you have some other mechanism to prevent people from deliberately misnaming a group, such as a Name Czar. There are too many examples of cases where this is needed. -- `-_-' Peter da Silva . 'U` -------------- +1 713 274 5180. "The basic notion underlying USENET is the flame." -- Chuq Von Rospach, chuq@Apple.COM