Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!bloom-beacon!bu-cs!snorkelwacker!spdcc!xylogics!world!bzs From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Call for Discussion: alt.cobol Message-ID: <1989Nov25.193310.20967@world.std.com> Date: 25 Nov 89 19:33:10 GMT References: <5301@garfield.MUN.EDU> Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die Lines: 28 In-Reply-To: chris2@garfield.MUN.EDU's message of 25 Nov 89 00:42:16 GMT >microsoft has cobol, mvs has cobol, vms has cobol, rt-11 has cobol, >!!alt!! needs cobol. There's at least one Cobol for Unix, it's called "RM Cobol" (I am *not* making this up), and they never understand the snickers as we walk by their booth at trade shows. I have nothing against a Cobol group, I have nothing against Cobol (as long as they, er, keep to their place), but I think the question of "where is the interest?" is valid. Completeness arguments ("there's a group for other major languages") and marketing arguments ("there are a zillion cobol programmers out there, somewhere") just don't cut it. Are there at least several people who will stand up and say "I am a Cobol programmer and would benefit personally from this group" rather than the current spate of "I've known some Cobol programmers and they're not bad folks...wouldn't let my daughter marry one though..." There really seems to be a disturbing third-person aspect to this discussion. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die, Purveyors to the Trade | bzs@world.std.com 1330 Beacon St, Brookline, MA 02146, (617) 739-0202 | {xylogics,uunet}world!bzs