Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: ssc-vax!shuksan!major@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Mike Schmitt) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Eastern Europe Message-ID: <11669@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 22 Nov 89 17:12:22 GMT References: <11431@cbnews.ATT.COM> <11499@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: The Boeing Co., BAC MMST, Seattle, WA Lines: 35 Approved: military@att.att.com From: ssc-vax!shuksan!major@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Mike Schmitt) In article <11499@cbnews.ATT.COM>, convex!uiucuxc!muse!cash@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter Cash) writes: > > > From: convex!uiucuxc!muse!cash@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter Cash) > > In article <11431@cbnews.ATT.COM denbeste@BBN.COM (Steven Den Beste) > writes: > > >What we now think of as France and what we now think of as Germany have > >been at war or almost war for most of the last 400 years. Does anyone think > >that the French army will ever cross the West German border in anger again? I'll insert a footnote here. Though France has 'officially' withdrawn militarily from NATO - the French still have the 3rd French Army stationed inside West Germany (Southwest West Germany). The French PX in Baden-Baden is a very interesting place to shop. They 'own' and operate a major training area in Muensingen (about 30 kilometers southeast of Stuttgart and 20 kilometers west of Ulm). At Muensingen, is the French Commando School (which I had the dubious pleasure to attend). Some of their Sergeants were 'former' French Foreign Legionnaires. (Yes, I know that there is a 'rule' that no French citizen can join the Legion - they sign up as Belgians). We (the US 1st Infantry Div (Forward)) would hold joint manuevers with their armor battalions (AMX-30 tanks). Very fine troops. Well equiped, well disciplined, well led. So, in one sense, they don't have to cross the West German border - they're already there. In anger? My first choice is that they will support NATO. major mike