Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: Brian Ross (bxr307@coombs.anu.oz) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Mines Message-ID: <11698@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 24 Nov 89 06:01:59 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Lines: 50 Approved: military@att.att.com From: Brian Ross (bxr307@coombs.anu.oz) Whereas Steven Den Beste (denbeste@BBN.COM) believes that magentic mines don't work the Allied experience with the German ones in WWII indicates otherwise. However both magnetic and acoustic influence detonated mines are generally only useful in shallow water (lying as they do on the floor in most cases, although I don't see why a tethered variant cannot be built, although a minesweeper would then be able to cut the tether), because they rely upon very weak forces to activate their fuses which attenuate with distance. There has been rather renaissance in mine warfare in the last ten years. With the onset of considerably more computer power with the micro-chip the mine has also tended to become a more "smart weapon". In addition the mine's reach has been increased with addition of a torpedo attach to it. The mine lies on the seafloor (or tethered at depth, well below the surface) and contains a computer which can be activated remotely. The computer controls various sensors such as magnetic, acoustic or pressure (a considerable change in pressure is associated with the wake of a passing ship) and when these detect a target the mine releases an acoustic or wire guided torpedo. This is then guided to the target by computer. Such a mine could be enplaced well before hostilities commence and could be activated when the time is right. It is this sort of mine which bring shudders to the minds of naval planners. In reference to the use of Magnetic Pistols to fire torpedo warheads, the Germans were quite successful by building on their experience gained with the Magnetic influence mine. On the otherhand the US Navy's efforts where as already related largely a failure until late in the war. In addition the Germans actually fielded such things as Acoustic homing torpedoes (I think they were called "nixie" going by memory) and Acoustic influence mines (nicknamed "oyster" mines by the Allies). Both of which caused considerable trouble in the last year of the war. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- | Brian Ross |Snail Mail:- "Bill Bracket the self-made man who came| in a a packet" | Brian Ross ----------------------------------------| Sociology Dept.R.S.S.S. E-Mail Addresses:- bxr307@coombs.anu.oz | Australian National University | CANBERRA,A.C.T.,2601, bxr307@csc.anu.oz | AUSTRALIA | _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-