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From: mathis@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Don Mathis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football,comp.ai.neural-nets
Subject: Re: Football Neural Net:  Results of week 12.
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Date: 1 Dec 89 22:37:06 GMT
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In article <17522@bcsaic.UUCP> lbaum@bcsaic.UUCP (Larry Baum) writes:
>;#19   Miami          -2.1     7-4            #19   Tampa Bay      -3.2     5-7
>;#20   Tampa Bay      -2.3     4-7            #20   Seattle        -3.3     4-8
>;#21   Seattle        -3.0     4-7            #21   Miami          -4.2     7-5
>;#22   New England    -5.8     4-7            #22   New England    -5.3     4-8
>;#23   Phoenix        -6.5     5-6            #23   Pittsburgh     -5.4     6-6
>;#24   Pittsburgh     -6.6     5-6            #24   Phoenix        -6.1     5-7
>;#25   Detroit        -7.8     2-9            #25   Detroit        -7.1     3-9
>;#26   Atlanta        -8.3     3-8            #26   N.Y.Jets       -7.4     3-9
>;#27   N.Y.Jets       -8.8     2-9            #27   Atlanta        -9.7     3-9
>;#28   Dallas         -12.3    1-10           #28   Dallas         -12.5    1-1

>How in the world can Seattle be ranked higher than Miami, Pittsburgh or Phoenix
.
>Obviously the Neural Net hasn't been watching the same Seahawks I have had the
>unpleasant experience of seeing lately.
   The really amazing thing to me is that even after getting destroyer by Denver
, Seattle moved UP from #21 to #20. This is no error, though.  As you can see,
Seattles q-value did decrease.  It's just that Miami did so bad that they    
dropped from #19 to #21.  Miami lost to the Jets...
                           
>The Hawks are truly awful.                                                  
        I know - isn't it great?                                             
                                                                             
>I expect that the Jets and the Lions would beat them easily, and Atlanta and
>Dallas would probably beat them too.
  Could be.  Unfortunately, the nn isn't especially sensitive to RECENT
performance, so it's still taking early games into account equally.  Remember,  
Seattle only lost to Denver by 3 in Seattle.                                    
                                                                                
>Miami loses to Pittsburgh in a monsoon and Seattle gets blown out by Denver.  Y
ou
>need to explain to the neural net that the Seattle-Denver score was 38-0 at the
>half and Denver played their second stringers in the second half.
  I wish I knew how.  Yet another bit of data the nn blatantly ignores!

 
- Don