Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!uwvax!umn-d-ub!umn-cs!wsmith From: wsmith@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU (Warren Smith [Randy]) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: Why Ethernet-over-twisted-pair, anyway? Keywords: Ethernet, twisted pair, cost-benefit Message-ID: <17360@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU> Date: 28 Nov 89 01:50:18 GMT References: <4645@blake.acs.washington.edu> Reply-To: wsmith@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Warren Smith [Randy]) Organization: CSci Dept., University of Minnesota, Mpls. Lines: 47 In article <4645@blake.acs.washington.edu> djo7613@blake.acs.washington.edu (Dick O'Connor) writes: >OK, Ethernet-over-twisted-pair fans, why is this innovation something to >get excited over? From theoretical or practical standpoints, why is >this new standard a boon to PC networking? > >I've heard comments about one of the obvious benefits: the cost of twisted >pair wiring, as opposed to the (higher) cost of RG-58 thin coaxial cable. >Perhaps cabling is easier, too. But is it really cheaper than standard >thinnet cable for small groups? ... example omitted >I guess what I'm after is the answer to: Is twisted pair Ethernet a >special-purpose solution for large LANs (where wiring costs might predom- >inate) or small spurs off a large LAN? Where's the benefit for a small >standalone workgroup? Here are what I see as the advantages of twisted pair Ethernet: 1) Low cost for cable minimal benefit - labor is usually the major expense in a large installation, equipment is in a smaller one 2) Ability to use existing cable plant in some cases 3) Common wiring type (most of your installer types feel comfortable with it) 4) Small cable - fits in conduit easier (not much different from thinnet tho) 5) Don't have to worry about termination 6) Same wiring can have multiple uses (eg. telephone, Appletalk, RS-232) some won't view this as a feature when people plug things in wrong... And numerous other quibbles about how easy/nice/reliable/stupid/junky/etc the connectors are. The IEEE 802.3T standard is not low cost! This will hopefully change as 802.3T devices are mass produced, and vendors start competing. I have some doubts that it will ever be a super cheap option (comments?). Other non-standard twisted pair products can be alot cheaper. I really don't think there is any significant advantage to using a twisted pair product for the small workgroup as you described (7 stations in close proximity). I wouldn't relate the benefit of twisted pair to the size of the LAN, but rather the wiring requirements. Randy ----- -- Randy Smith wsmith@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu ...!rutgers!umn-cs!wsmith