Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!think!ames!apple!motcsd!hpda!hpcupt1!hprnd!pat From: pat@hprnd.HP.COM (Pat Thaler) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: Why Ethernet-over-twisted-pair, anyway? Message-ID: <2230037@hprnd.HP.COM> Date: 1 Dec 89 17:40:18 GMT References: <4645@blake.acs.washington.edu> Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division Lines: 32 johnl@n3dmc.UU.NET (John Limpert) writes: > > Is anyone besides me concerned about the RFI/EMI vulnerabilities > of twisted pair? I see enough problems with non-existent or poor > shielding in current business/consumer electronics equipment. > Is your LAN going to collapse every time someone keys up their > radio? Is your LAN going to blanket the area with RF garbage? > > -- > John A. Limpert I'm the NRA! > Internet: johnl@n3dmc.UU.NET UUCP: uunet!n3dmc!johnl > ---------- When we initially looked at 10 Mbits on twisted pair, this was one of our first concerns. The 10BASE-T committee looked at susceptability including noise measurements on inplace wiring in actual buildings. We also looked at susceptability to crosstalk from other services on twisted pair. RFI and the ability to meet requirements of FCC, VDE, and others was investigated, as was interference with other services on twisted pair. So my answer is: Given good design practice, a 10BASE-T LAN will not "collapse every time someone keys up their radio" and will not "blanket the area with RF garbage." Twisted pair is a balanced media and performs fairly well as far as RFI/EMI. It is limited in length due to attenuation and crosstalk. Given poor design practice, anything can emit. I had a 1200 baud modem at home which interfered with my 2m (~144 MHz) handitalkie if it was plugged in, transmitting or not. Pat Thaler