Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ames!eos!eugene From: eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Re: Scientific Visualization again Message-ID: <5672@eos.UUCP> Date: 29 Nov 89 08:16:50 GMT References: <11726@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <1989Nov25.142552.1702@hellgate.utah.edu> <3399@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> <5646@eos.UUCP> Reply-To: eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Calif. Lines: 45 In article jim@baroque.Stanford.EDU (unknown) writes: >In article <5646@eos.UUCP> I wrote: > > But remember to make the distinct between education and research. > >Actually, I think there are three distinct areas in which computer >aided "visualization" is a useful tool. >NerdVis, EdVis, and ShowVis. I gave a couple of days of background thought: no problem with NerdVis, so the distinct is between EdVis and ShowVis. EdVis is important, too, but I have a problem separating it from ShowVis. It's not clear that you need to have such a big difference between the kid learning in school and the funding CongressCritter. It's learning, and it's also possible to have too much flash. Perhaps it was because I grew up in Southern California not far from Hollywood. I've seen too many films recently which have taken historical liberties with real events (The Right Stuff, Capone, etc. and also liberties with science [name your own]). There are also the excellent exceptions. I have nothing against Show Business as a source of enjoyment, but truth must NEVER be compromised. EdVis must be inexpensive, but it does not mean it has to be low quality. ShowVis can also be seen as an insult to intelligent viewers as well. Let's just make it a function of education (a semantic difference). Education requires the use of progression and background info leading to THE result. Anyways, for the next meeting of BA/ACM/SIGGRAPH/TIGSV, we will have some "real" scientists. I'll get some physicists (peaceful and less than 8), a chemist, maybe Langridge will come down, otherwise I'll get a botanist or two, etc. etc. (non-computer people of course). I believe there are very common themes between all those disparate sciences. Another gross generalization from --eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@aurora.arc.nasa.gov resident cynic at the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers: "You trust the `reply' command with all those different mailers out there?" "If my mail does not reach you, please accept my apology." {ncar,decwrl,hplabs,uunet}!ames!eugene Support the Free Software Foundation (FSF) Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com