Xref: utzoo comp.software-eng:2512 comp.misc:7483 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!watmsg!sccowan From: sccowan@watmsg.waterloo.edu (S. Crispin Cowan) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.misc Subject: Re: Programmer productivity Message-ID: <31986@watmath.waterloo.edu> Date: 27 Nov 89 14:16:51 GMT References: <16170@duke.cs.duke.edu> <34819@regenmeister.uucp> <16186@duke.cs.duke.edu> Sender: daemon@watmath.waterloo.edu Reply-To: sccowan@watmsg.waterloo.edu (S. Crispin Cowan) Distribution: na Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 29 In article <16186@duke.cs.duke.edu> crm@romeo.UUCP (Charlie Martin) writes: >Why then are they predictive? In the software engineering course that I took, I was given to understand that: -SLOC is about as accurate as any other measure devised -SLOC is accurate to within a factor of 2 to 4 (depending on the application domain). Big deal, so is tummy rubbing (i.e. expert opinion based on experience). Yes, there is a lot of good work already done in software engineering, and a lot of good work yet to be done. We know lots of things, most of them relating to how NOT to do it. Software engineering research has not yet suceeded in making programming an engineering field, it's still an art. We WANT it to be engineering, life would be easier if it were engineering, but I don't believe that it's so, yet. >Charlie Martin (crm@cs.duke.edu,mcnc!duke!crm) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Login name: sccowan In real life: S. Crispin Cowan Office: DC3548 x3934 Home phone: 570-2517 Post Awful: 60 Overlea Drive, Kitchener, N2M 1T1 UUCP: watmath!watmsg!sccowan Domain: sccowan@watmsg.waterloo.edu "We have to keep pushing the pendulum so that it doesn't get stuck in the extremes--only the middle is worth having." Orwell, Videobanned -- Kim Kofmel Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com