Xref: utzoo rec.humor:30105 comp.misc:7492 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!decwrl!ucbvax!dewey.soe.berkeley.edu!oster From: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (David Phillip Oster) Newsgroups: rec.humor,comp.misc Subject: Re: It's time to update the "Real Programmers" list Message-ID: <32839@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 28 Nov 89 08:19:29 GMT References: <1989Nov15.161216.4893@uunet!unhd> <32973@mirror.UUCP> <1989Nov17.140521.1645@eng.umd.edu> <7891@ttidca.TTI.COM> <89331.215855CMH117@PSUVM.BITNET> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (David Phillip Oster) Distribution: rec Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley Lines: 38 In article <89331.215855CMH117@PSUVM.BITNET> CMH117@PSUVM.BITNET (Charles Hannum) writes: _>In article <7891@ttidca.TTI.COM>, sorgatz@ttidca.TTI.COM ( Avatar) says: _>> _>>In article <1989Nov17.140521.1645@eng.umd.edu> russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. _>>Russotto) writes: _>>+Assembly? Real Programmers don't use Assembly. Real programmers _>>+toggle their programs in on the front panel switches if available, _>>+otherwise they bite the bullet and use octal. _>>+ _>> OCTAL?!! You mean BYTE-OCTAL! and.. _>> _>> ..You kids are too young to remember this, BUT: _>> _>> "Real Programmers can PATCH programs on paper tape!" _>> _>> (I actually used to do this...no kidding!) _> _>Obviously, Real Programmers are fools. I use a debugger integrated into my _>compiler. With it, I can look at or change the values of variables, even _>inside structures, and all sorts of other nifty things. _>I guess the difference between me and a Real Programmer is that I actually _>get some work done. _>- Charles Martin Hannum II "Klein bottle for sale ... inquire within." _> cmh117@psuvm.{bitnet,psu.edu} "No noozzzz izzz netzzzsnoozzzzz..." _> c9h@psuecl.{bitnet,psu.edu} "Mem'ry, all alone in the moonlight ..." Real programmers measure their productivity in NSLOC: Negative Source Lines of Code: "Here boss, this yard of printout was the whole system last month. This inch of printout is the system today. Less to maintain, runs faster, and now it fits on a 90k Atari 800 floppy. Hand over that raise." > The mac is a detour in the inevitable march of mediocre computers. > drs@bnlux0.bnl.gov (David R. Stampf) --- David Phillip Oster -master of the ad hoc odd hack. Arpa: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu Uucp: {uwvax,decvax}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com