Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!plogan From: plogan@mentor.com (Patrick Logan) Newsgroups: comp.object Subject: Re: Guthery slams OOP Message-ID: <1989Nov28.004005.3482@mentor.com> Date: 28 Nov 89 00:40:05 GMT Organization: engr Lines: 24 I have not seen the DDJ article but I have read some things from his OOPSLA presentation. They seem to be basically the same. I agree with most responders that his arguments use incorrect logic and slanted examples. I came away with two useful points, though. (1) It is good to scan through papers like this to be prepared for responding when it may really count. I.e. someone you work for may have similar opinions. I've had other people in the past challenge my claims for object-oriented programming. Now that OOP is becoming over-rated instead of under-rated, this may not occur much. (2) In the paper I read he mentioned (several times) the lack of hard data for claims of productivity. This is largely true, sorely lacking, and difficult to gather as well as apply. Can anyone provide evidence to the contrary for point #2? Thanks. -- Patrick Logan | ...!{decwrl,sequent,tessi}!mntgfx!plogan Mentor Graphics Corporation | plogan@pdx.MENTOR.COM Beaverton, Oregon | Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com