Xref: utzoo comp.edu:2714 comp.software-eng:2547 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rice!uw-beaver!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!psueea!psueea.uucp!warren From: warren@psueea.uucp (Warren Harrison) Newsgroups: comp.edu,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: CS education Message-ID: <2030@psueea.UUCP> Date: 29 Nov 89 18:30:47 GMT References: <16171@duke.cs.duke.edu> <7184@hubcap.clemson.edu> Sender: news@psueea.UUCP Reply-To: warren@jove.cs.pdx.edu (Warren Harrison) Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Portland State University; Portland OR Lines: 28 This article had so many follow ups I got lost as to who said what, but I think this is attributed to Bill Wolfe: > prevented from studying because I was R-E-Q-U-I-R-E-D to study so many > things which were irrelevant. Had I been free to make intelligent and > reasonable tradeoffs, I would be much farther along and would have gotten > a lot more enjoyment and value out of my education. It is the rare student indeed who *knows* what will be irrelevant and what will be relevant in their career. A good university education should provide the student with the breadth that will allow exploration outside a narrowly defined specialty. For example, my undergrad degree was in Accounting. Luckily I was able (required) to take other courses which I thought at the time were irrelevant. I found these to be some of the most valuable courses I ever had, and prepared me well for switching carrers (I'm now trying to be a Computer Scientist). If you want specialization to the degree many people are suggesting in this newsgroup, you're much better off going to a trade school and learning the exact skills you perceive you'll need for the future. If you currently are a practicing software engineer and want specific skills that *you* think will help you, there is no lack of very good seminar/workshop road shows that are bound to visit your city at least once a year - I have taught several of them myself. They are certainly not meant to be a substitute for a university education, and vice-versa. Warren Harrison CSNET: warren@cs.pdx.edu Department of Computer Science UUCP: {ucbvax,decvax}!tektronix!psueea!warren Portland State University Internet: warren%cs.pdx.edu@relay.cs.net Portland, OR 97207-0751 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com