Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!xanth!mcnc!ncsuvx!news From: hgm@ccvr1.uucp (Hal G. Meeks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Okimate 20 Impressions??? Keywords: Okimate, you get what you pay for Message-ID: <1989Nov30.054240.25610@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> Date: 30 Nov 89 05:42:40 GMT References: <795@orange9.qtp.ufl.edu> Reply-To: hgm@ccvr1.ncsu.edu (Hal G. Meeks) Distribution: na Organization: NCSU Computing Center Lines: 54 Firstly, the Okimate 20 isn't $100.00 as you quoted. With the proper plugnplay interface, it's closer to $180.00. Ribbons are $6.00 apiece, and as far as how long they last, it depends what you are printing. The friend who has one is saying 12-15 pictures per ribbon, but I have heard that is the low end. Print speed is sloooooow, and the streaks you describe are unfortunately a part of the printer. 1.3 fixes this problem somewhat by overlapping lines slightly, but it a valiant attempt at best. If you are really strapped for cash, and must have color, here's some suggestions: Star NX1000 Rainbow - This a 9 pin JX80 clone. Print quality is okay for text, although I'm not too thrilled with their draft font. Graphic printing has the inherent problems of a dot matrix; uneven color, some problem with print lines. All considered though, it's an all around better choice than the Okimate, for slightly about $200.00. Used Printers - Printers quite a few moving parts, but it's possible to find a decent used printer that may have a few years left on it. Note that for Inkjets, you don't have to worry about a print head being worn, but you do have to worry about clogged ink jets, leaking lines, etc. Not to scare you off, since I bought my Xerox 4020 used, and it's been doing great for about a year now. Quadram Quadjet, Canon PJ1080, IBM ColorJet - These are all essentially the same printer mechanically. I've seen Quadram Quadjets pop up occasionally for around $200.00. They use replacement ink packs that also contain maintenance fluid (most likely distilled water). Since they have an autoflush mechanism to clean the heads, jet clogging is much less of a problem than earlier inkjet designs. Nice consistent color across the page is the big plus. They are slow, however, and need a special clay treated paper to hold the ink on the page until it dries (easily obtainable). Diablo C150 - I've seen these going for $300 -$350, used. It's essentially the same engine as my Xerox 4020, without the autoflush mechanism or the "enchanced" printing mode (prints blacks in two passes for really dark blacks). Again, needs a special inkjet paper. You can either use tektronix or Xerox inks in this printer, "Inky Dink" inks from Software Sensations (about 1/2 the price), or liquid watercolors (Dr. PH Martin's, Windsor Newton's). A side note - Just noticed an ad in Computer Shopper for some surplus liquidator. They are selling Xerox 4020's (evidentally new) for $650.00. What can I add other than I've been very happy with mine. --hal --------------- hgm@ccvr1.ncsu.edu "Oh dear, now I've made a terrible mess of things. netoprhm@ncsuvm.bitnet And all I wanted to do was rule the universe." Dr. Zachary Smith