Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!tank!eecae!netnews.upenn.edu!vax1.cc.lehigh.edu!vlsi3b15!batman!nicholaA From: nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: 10 mhz chips Message-ID: <654@batman.moravian.EDU> Date: 27 Nov 89 01:00:51 GMT References: <36519@apple.Apple.COM> <5816@lindy.Stanford.EDU> <5891@lindy.Stanford.EDU> Organization: Moravian College, Bethlehem, PA Lines: 32 In article <5891@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, lunatic@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Lunatic) writes: > \/\/e need another incompatible bus standard because even if it IS > possible to adapt NuBus to the Apple II, I'm sure it would involve a > lot of time, effort, money, etc. The solution I presented and > rankins@zaire.crd.ge.com (raymond r rankins) expanded upon is simple > (compared to adapting NuBus), a lot less expensive, realizeable in a > much shorter period of time, *AND* fully compatible with all the > hardware existing for the ][+, IIe and IIGS today! There would be no > need for two types of slots, a (much) larger case, or anything. That'd be a kind of interesting way of doing things because you could get around the "slow slot i/o" problem by running the second "slot" in front of the older slot at the full speed of the machine and just tell designers to design cards that will work right at the full speed of the machine. I had thought that another good idea for getting around the slot i/o problem would be to have an ID word which would make force the card into "FAST" slot mode; however, I think that your idea is probably better for making a practical solution. You could have the new "slot" for accessing the fast side of the system.. hmmm.. you really wouldn't even need to run some lines to that slot because they'd be duplicates of the first (like you could suck power from the first part like cards like the twgs do now). Hmmm... now, if they would only move the 8530 serial i/o locations out of the i/o locations, we'd be in business.. :-) andy -- Andy Nicholas GEnie, AM-Online: shrinkit Box 435, Moravian College CompuServe: 70771,2615 Bethlehem, PA 18018 InterNET: shrinkit@moravian.edu