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From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: AssemPro any good?
Message-ID: <3832@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>
Date: 28 Nov 89 09:31:42 GMT
References: <1626@ultb.UUCP> <1627@ultb.UUCP> <1192@electro.UUCP> <6710@cs.yale.edu>
Reply-To: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Organization: Computer Science, Heriot-Watt U., Scotland
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In article <6710@cs.yale.edu> fischer-michael@CS.YALE.EDU (Michael Fischer)
writes:
>The -fm and -fmu switches cause madmac to generate MWC format object files.

Amazing! Landon Dyer said that Madmac could do this but never said how.
Thanks Mike.

What annoys me is that I have a manual for Madmac version 0.11 (Alpha) and
an executable version 1.00 (Oct 1987). I hope this works.
With the advent of Rainbow TOS there has been a new release of Madmac and ALN
but (fingers in ears folks :-)
ATARI UK ARE GIVING OUT NEITHER THE ROMS OR UTILS TO DEVELOPERS AND I AM
ROYALLY PISSED OFF ABOUT IT!!!!

To Ken Badertscher (Atari US):
I thanked you earlier this year for downloading my net article and forwarding
it to the appropriate Atari Corporation executives. Sadly there has been
no action yet despite 4 letters to Bob Katz (Atari UK), the last of which was
registered. If you can get me any help I would be eternal2ly grateful.

Generally again:
The deliberate suppression of Rainbow TOS in the UK is punishing the ST here.
TOS 1.4 took a long time to finish but I believe that wait is worth it but
when it is released right across the world but not in the UK that is more
than I can take. Many others feel like I do that this is causing a lot of
people to quit the ST. Such is the frustration that someone once suggested
that UK ST owners should get US images and convert them (screen freq, keymaps
, whatever it takes etc).

I believe we paid 500 pounds for the Developers kit back in 1986 and since
then we have got only Madmac, ALN and 2 newsletters the last of which was in
November 1987. The list of things we want developer info about gets longer
by the day. When will Atari UK support us? Perhaps if they were led to
believe that we were developing the all singing all dancing program that
would help sell 200,000 ST's a year we would get support.

Currently our only source of info seems to be Atari US employees, most notably
Allen and Ken, who use the net.

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