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From: mjv@iris.brown.edu (Marshall Vale)
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Subject: Re: A LEGAL Mac emulator!
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Date: 30 Nov 89 21:25:40 GMT
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In article <1989Nov30.185438.6755@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> 
opielask@clutx.clarkson.edu (Scott K. Opiela,,,2684025) writes:
> (Now the 128k roms, which can only be
> LEGALLY attained from Apple Computer Inc.) 

When I was searching for the ROMS, I did call an authorized Apple dealer 
and
they would sell me ROMs.  This might depend on the dealer though.

> (AND the System and Finder software that
> ARE ALSO COPYRIGHTED BY Apple Computer
> Inc. for use exclusively on Macs)

 You can go into any Apple dealer and purchase the latest system software 
for
around USD$45.

> (Apple has a nice little package that includes
> the 128k roms, and the System software,
> PLUS they throw in a Mac Plus for free!
> [minus roms and System software])       Mac Plus package...  $909 (edu. 
price)

 Not everyone has access to the educational discount.  Also take note that
you get to use the discount ONCE, that's it (you also can't sell it for a
period of time thereafter either.) Also, each university is on a different
price reduction level depending on Mac use. Brown is at the highest level,
but some other college may have to offer it for several hundred more. Since
you would use your one time discount, you'd probably also buy an 
Imagewriter
and (/or only if you're a masochist) a hard drive.  Then add that all to 
the
cost of the discounted Mac.  I would certainly use my one time discount to
choose a set that I would be able to use for a long time (like one from the 
Mac II line but then, that's me).

 If Apple really thought that places that sell used HD (and therefore ROMS)
were illegal, I doubt that you would see those places still around. For
example, say a person has a dead Plus that they want to sell.  Joe's Used 
Macs buys it and then proceeds to gut the dead Plus and sell its parts.  
That's probably still legal, hence we are able to get ROMS.

 Don't forget that the Plus has a very short life span left as new apple 
product.  It won't be much time before the SE is bottom of the line and 
that's around $1400-2000USD with the edu discount! (Add HD and its crazy).

 I won't even get into want "constitutes" a Mac. ROMS? Apple logo? Chips?
 
 I hope this makes everyone feel a bit more legit.
 
-- mjv@iris.brown.edu

"And, oh! Father Christmas, if you love me at all,
 Bring me a big, red india-rubber ball."
                                   A.A. Milne "Now We are Six"