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From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TOS 1.4 in the UK.
Message-ID: <3847@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk>
Date: 1 Dec 89 09:19:12 GMT
References: <8911300808.AA08824@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
Reply-To: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Organization: Computer Science, Heriot-Watt U., Scotland
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Well I guess you folks knew I wouldn't let this go by without comment ...

In article <8911300808.AA08824@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> AMEIJ@vax.oxford.ac.UK
(Jan Ameij) writes:
>I now hear that Atari UK have ordered the TOS1.4 roms from Atari Taiwan, and
>that they will be available sometime (but, opinion seems, not soon) for a
>price well in excess of 100 quid (cf 100 dollars in the US!).

Yeah! That's sounds like regular 'screw them stoopid' Atari UK policy.
These ROMS will probably be for general distribution but why do I not have a
it (even on EPROM) now. We ARE registered Developers!

>I have also discovered that Atari UK are the worst company to contact that
>I have ever encountered, with a telephonist whose degree of unhelpfulness
>plumbs constantly lower depths. "Atari-please-hold..... (25 minutes later I
>gave up)". That's if they answer (50% chance). I can quite easily believe
>that this bunch of wazzocks are entirely responsible for the non-appearance
>of TOS 1.4 here. 

My usual Atari UK telephone experience (if I get an answer)

Atari: "Hello Atareee!"
Irate Developer: "I'd like to speak to Bob Katz please"
Atari: "Hold on pleeez" Click
Silence, More Silence
Atari: "Who are you hold for?"
Irate Developer: "BOB KATZ"
Atari: "Hold on puleez" Click "I'm sorry he's in a meeting" (Like everyday!)
       "Can I take a message"

At this point you can either say NO (But she'll hang up before you finish the
word) or YES and leave a message that will be ignored or she'll forget before
it hits the paper.

>Jan Ameij,
>Oxford University Department of Applied Metaphysics,
>ameij@ox.vax

Do you remember the joke about Apple employees changing a lightbulb?

How many Atari UK employees does it take to change a lightbulb?
Who cares as long as they change it soon! :-) NFSU

>PS: Ken B. and Allan P., please don't take offence, I realize this has nothing
>to do with you or Atari US. 

Agreed! Thru these silent years they have been the only support I have seen and
long may they continue to do so.

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