Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:39106 comp.dcom.lans:3906 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mstan!jordan From: jordan@Morgan.COM (Jordan Hayes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: Xwindows & PM (OS/2) Message-ID: <556@s5.Morgan.COM> Date: 30 Nov 89 20:25:34 GMT References: <9604@pyr.gatech.EDU> Reply-To: jordan@Morgan.COM (Jordan Hayes) Distribution: usa Organization: Morgan Stanley and Co., NY, NY Lines: 50 Cris Simpson writes: PM will be the basis for the OSF interface. It will also use the DECwindows API [1]. [1] PC Week, Jan 9, 1989 Hmmm. This is Slightly misleading (and perhaps out of date) information. The PM GUI has seven (at last count) differences from Motif, the OSF selection. Examples include the "little box/big box" gadgets in Motif for minimize/maximize vs. the down-arrow/up-arrow for PM (upper right hand corner of the frame). Motif and DecWindows are both Xt Intrinsics-based, so the API is best described as "Intrinsics-based" rather than "DecWindows-based" ... Note that the PM API is extremely different from the Motif API; only the GUI is similar ... HP and MS have been working closely on this. SCO is doing a lot of the work of the port, to be called PM/X. PM/X will allegedly allow existing PM API calls to be ported directly. It's not suprising that the API of PM and PM/X would be similar (look what Sun did with their OpenLook toolkit that smells like SunView). What will be suprising is how many vendors wind up making versions of their software available to run under PM/X (*not* PM -- i'm talking about having an MS-Word window on your SparcStation, coming from some 486 somewhere, not running the application on the Sun itself). > Does anyone know or feel any different? Does anyone see > Lotus or Ashton-Tate or Word Perfect, etc., announcing a > Xwindows interface? Both WordDefect and Word 5.0 are available under Unix. (Whose *nix, I don't remember.) Both the Word and WordPerfect products are the 80x25 screen PC versions, not the Windows version (or the Mac version for that matter). Sorry, but until I can have WYSIWYG, I still need my PC/Mac. In fact, WordPerfect for UNIX is 4.2 based, with no plans to port 5.0 (or 5.1, which actually can use a mouse for some of the character-based stuff it does, without a window manager running -- you can click at menu choices, to a certain extent). WordPerfect has (at last check, two weeks ago) no plans for a Unix version that runs under X (running wp in an xterm doesn't count), but Bill Gates claims PM/X ports for all major MS products "in the future" ... /jordan