Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!coherent!dplatt From: dplatt@coherent.com (Dave Platt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: MacDemon, get they gone Keywords: keyboard, power Message-ID: <40846@improper.coherent.com> Date: 3 Dec 89 02:41:28 GMT References: <2670@unisoft.UUCP> Reply-To: dplatt@improper (Dave Platt) Distribution: usa Organization: Coherent Thought Inc., Palo Alto CA Lines: 49 In article <2670@unisoft.UUCP> cander@unisoft.UUCP (Charles Anderson) writes: > I came home from dinner the other night to find my Mac II running. My > immediate conclusion was that I had left it on for a few days since the > last time I had used it. So I shut it down from the Finder menu only > to have it restart as soon as the power went off. So I yanked the ADB > cord out of the extended keyboard and shut it down again. This time it > stayed down. > > My first idea was that it was related to the high humidiy we had with > the rain on that day. My hypothesis was that there was a bunch of > moisture shorting the power key in the keyboard. Since then it's been > very dry, but the Mac continues to restart itself, usually taking a few > minutes or an hour before restarting. > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to exocise this evil presence from my > system? I had this same problem... although the guilty device was a Kensington Turbo Trackball. Your conclusion about humidity is correct... it takes very little current-leakage across the PC-board traces to trigger the "Power on!" detector in the Mac II. Apparently the power-on circuit in the keyboard is designed to draw very little current... thus ensuring that the lithium battery in the Mac II isn't run down too quickly. I fixed my trackball by drying it out in the sun, opening it up, noting where the power-on trace ran across the PC board (it went from the in-port to the out-port, and wasn't connected to any circuitry in the trackball), figuring out where the short-circuit was occurring (pressing my finger firmly to the traces was enough to make the Mac boot!), and insulating the traces with a dab of fingernail polish. The problem went away and has not recurred. If you prefer a slightly more high-tech solution than fingernail polish, you could probably buy a can of silicone- or urethane-based "conformal coating"... an aerosol spray designed specifically for sealing PC boards and components against moisture and contamination. With fingernail polish, you should try to moisture-seal the PC-board solder contacts of the power-on switch, the contacts for the ADB connectors, and the PC-board trace which handles the power-on signal. With an aerosol conformal coating, you could probably spray the whole solder-side of the PC board (enough to coat, not enough to drip and run). -- Dave Platt VOICE: (415) 493-8805 UUCP: ...!{ames,apple,uunet}!coherent!dplatt DOMAIN: dplatt@coherent.com INTERNET: coherent!dplatt@ames.arpa, ...@uunet.uu.net USNAIL: Coherent Thought Inc. 3350 West Bayshore #205 Palo Alto CA 94303