Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!cadnetix.COM!cadnetix!pem From: pem@cadnetix.COM (Paul Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Tail patches Message-ID: <10385@cadnetix.COM> Date: 28 Nov 89 21:12:35 GMT References: <5212@internal.Apple.COM> <32982@mirror.UUCP> <5248@internal.Apple.COM> <9012@hoptoad.uucp> <5296@internal.Apple.COM> <9041@hoptoad.uucp> Sender: news@cadnetix.COM Reply-To: pem@cadnetix.COM (Paul Meyer) Organization: Cadnetix Corp., Boulder, CO Lines: 37 In article <9041@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) writes: >But Paul, you are missing the point. Every case I've seen here where >people argue with you is because you have *not* raised any compelling >argument. It seems you want us all to put "DTS said it, that settles >it, and I believe it" bumper stickers on our cars. I am referring only >to you; most other Apple employees here have much better network >manners. You, however, specialize in responses which are inane and >peremptory; for example, your messages on tail patches that nowhere >included a technical explanation of the problem with them, or your >message on file ids that completely ignored every point I raised (as >some other posters noted at the time). I'm sorry, Tim, but I just can't let this go by. It's true that when you, or somebody who I know is competent to talk about it, take DTS or Apple to task about something, I pay attention. The fact is, this whole flamefest started with somebody asking what a tail patch is and whining that he "ought" to be able to do it. DTS is a bunch of people whose *job* is to track the pitfalls of programming Macs (Apples), and I can't stand to see everybody taking pot-shots at them because they say that we *shouldn't* do something because it is likely to break. Your job also requires you to keep up with things, and you are qualified to take pot-shots. Most of the people who whine about things *don't* have the perspective on what Mac development looks like that you or the DTS people do. Additionally, if I ask you, "Tim, why shouldn't I go out in the snow naked", I would be very surprised indeed if you gave me a nice 60-line explanation of body temperature, wind chill, biochemistry, and the phase of the moon. You would answer, with precisely the information that I seek, "because you would get sick or die." I'd rather see DTS answering simple questions simply so they can get to the meaty questions and spend the time on *them*. A simple answer can always receive a request for more information if it really is needed. Paul Meyer pem@cadnetix.COM Daisy/Cadnetix Inc. (DAZIX) {uunet,boulder}!cadnetix!pem 5775 Flatirons Pkwy. GEnie P.MEYER CI$ 73627,1274 Boulder, CO 80301 (303)444-8075x277