Path: utzoo!mnetor!frank From: frank@mnetor.UUCP (Frank Kolnick) Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop Subject: Re: Self-Publishing Message-ID: <5173@mnetor.UUCP> Date: 30 Nov 89 15:31:28 GMT References: <25160001@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM> <25160003@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM> Reply-To: frank@mnetor.UUCP (Frank Kolnick) Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 44 In article <25160003@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM> 10e@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM (Steven_Tenney) writes: >One other question, Frank--except for the software, could you give a >ballpark figure on how much it cost to get your manuscript printed >(mainly just the printer's cost)? > >Also, how does the IRS accept business expenses as far as writing off >your own labor (assuming you did set up the production of your book >as a business). I knew of someone, who owned his own piano store, who >treated himself as both president of his company as well as a laborer. > >Thanks for your info! The actual printing cost is highly dependent on the paper stock (best if you use a 'house' brand that the printer buys in large quantities) and particularly the quantity printed. There's a set-up cost of several thousand dollars (I got quotes from 3 to 8K!) , plus a per-copy charge which diminishes gradually with greater quantities. My first printing ran about $6 a copy (Canadian) for a 300 page book on really good paper (I'm fussy, and it was my first book), perfect-bound, with a colour, laminated cover. If I had printed 2000, the charge would have been about $5; at any smaller quantity, it would have been prohibitive. I priced out the equivalent of K & R and it would have saved me another dollar or so (cheaper paper, smaller size, simple cover). I didn't factor in the time spent, since this would have been depressing :-) As for taxes, our equivalent of the IRS treats me as a low-volume manufacturer, so I can deduct the printing and materials costs. As for salary and other such questions, we're primarily a consulting company, and we're incorporated, and this is all too complex for me so I let our accountant handle it :-) I.e., there seems to be a lot of latitude in determining what goes where, and how your doing this year, where your year-end occurs, and so on. I'd rather write. You're welcome. (Btw, printers are really skeptical when you do this sort of thing. Which is another reason to try know more than they do. On the other hand, when you go back for your next printing -- esp. in a greater quantity -- the president brings you a coffee!) -- Frank Kolnick, consulting for, and therefore expressing opinions independent of, Computer X UUCP: {allegra, linus}!utzoo!mnetor!frank