Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!dogie.macc.wisc.edu!decwrl!crltrx!decvax!maxx!tyager From: tyager@maxx.UUCP (Tom Yager) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: "best" video board for 386/ix X11? Summary: Wait... Message-ID: <14@maxx.UUCP> Date: 26 Nov 89 15:49:51 GMT References: <1989Nov16.190054.15473@world.std.com> Organization: MAXX Public Access Unix, Westborough, Mass. Lines: 70 In article <1989Nov16.190054.15473@world.std.com>, madd@world.std.com (jim frost) writes: > I'm looking for opinions on what the "best" video board for 386/ix X11 > might be. I'm looking for fast color, 8 bits preferred, resolution > should be close to 1024x1024, better resolution preferred. Please > give some idea of board and monitor costs. If you have a monochrome > card which you are particularly fond of, that would be interesting > too. > > Thanks in advance for any replies, > > jim frost > software tool & die > madd@std.com I think the best advice for anyone in your situation is, "wait." The best board available now is Matrox's PG-1281, which does 1280x1024 in 256 colors. It's a 34010-based card, with tons of custom silicon devoted to speeding up line-drawing and text. It is a screamer, but the price (>$4000) is enough to make you scream, too. A competent monitor will set you back another $2000-$3500. This is the combination I use with 386/ix and, obviously, I like it a lot. The reason I suggest waiting is that the next release of ISC's X11 will include generic support for 8514/A register-compatible adapters. These can deliver 1024x768 in 256 colors, and can do an interlaced mode that makes monitors much more affordable. Another system in my lab is running an Orchid Pro Designer VGA that happens to have a 1024x768 interlaced mode that syncs with 8514-compatible monitors. ISC's X11 supports this, and, while I'm not a great fan of interlacing, it's really not half bad. It helps to have a good monitor--the Seiko CM-1430 I'm using is terrific, and they've got some new ones out that will surely be worth looking at. Everything that follows is opinion, so if you're not interested, don't trouble to read on. Since generic 8514/A support is here, generic TIGA (TI's 340x0 standard) can't be far away. In any case, expect that these two standards will duke it out to the delight of us consumers: Prices should fall dramatically. The under-$1000 intelligent graphics card is already here (8514/A cards shown at Comdex), but I predict that the $700 price barrier will be broken by mid-year, and that buyers will be able to choose between 340x0 and 8514/A based on more rational criteria than price. Which do I like better? I'd like to be corrected if I'm wrong, but what little I know of the 8514 leads me to believe that the 34010, which has been out for some time now, is more advanced. There are at least two boards that implement the entire X11 protocol ON THE BOARD, and that could bust the market wide open. If this becomes a popular method, vendors won't have to port X11 themselves. All they'd have to port is the client libraries and the board-level interface. The toughest part (and toughest part to get right), the server, wouldn't have to be touched at all. A company called AGE is offering a generic 34010-resident X11.3 server to OEMs now (don't call them--they don't give any info to ordinary mortals). I don't know anything about the cost or who will be supporting it, but my hunch is that the Artist board from Control Systems will be among the first in line. I believe that the advent of affordable intelligent graphics controllers, coupled with hardware-tuned X11 software, will eliminate the final distinction between workstations and UNIX PCs. (ty) -- +--Tom Yager, Technical Editor, BYTE magazine------------------------------+ | NET: tyager%maxx@m2c.m2c.org -or- tyager%bytepb@uunet.uu.net | | I speak only for myself "If our knees bent the other way, | +-------------------------------------what would a chair look like?"-------+