Xref: utzoo news.admin:7846 misc.legal:12542 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!prls!pyramid!athertn!jimb From: jimb@athertn.Atherton.COM (Jim Burke) Newsgroups: news.admin,misc.legal Subject: Re: Evidence from computers Message-ID: <15037@athertn.Atherton.COM> Date: 30 Nov 89 23:27:05 GMT References: <3990@sbcs.sunysb.edu> <628@ncis.tis.llnl.gov> <4052@sbcs.sunysb.edu> Reply-To: jimb@Atherton.COM (Jim Burke) Distribution: usa Organization: Atherton Technology, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 26 In article <4052@sbcs.sunysb.edu> brnstnd@stealth.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >I've seen several cases where printouts were not accepted in court. For >example, if a money machine messes up, you have absolutely no recourse. >The receipts are worthless. (This may not be true in states other than >New York. And I'm not a lawyer.) This is because the transaction was handled by a machine without a human being there to verify that you actually put the money in the envelope. You could punch in a zillion dollars and the machine will blindly print you a receipt without any verification. The only thing the receipt proves is that, yes indeed, you did punch in that number after punching the deposit button. You are not there later on when a teller clears and verifies the transactions. This is certainly riskier than if you are standing in front of the teller verifying their handling of your transaction. This is one reason I never deposit cash at a teller machine. It seems too risky although most banks do have two employees open and clear the machine to avoid theft by dishonest tellers. -- ****** Views expressed here in are my own ******* Jim Burke - consultant 408) 734-9822 | I'll stop posting when they pry my jimb@Atherton.COM | cold, dead fingers from the smoking {decwrl,sun,hpda,pyramid}!athertn!jimb | keyboard. Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com